Internationally touring bassist and music director Rob Morgan sits down over drinks with intriguing people to try and learn what it means to live a curious life.

Question 11 // What’s the difference between familiarity and a loss of passion? (feat. Ben Gowell)

June 27, 2017

Ben Gowell (@bengowell for all you fellow Instagram junkies) is not only one of the most professional guitarist/producer/mix-engineer/songwriters that I know but he’s also one of the wisest people I’ve ever spent time with. I’ve looked up to Ben for years and because of that, this conversation goes all over the map and deep pretty quick. This one’s for those of you out there in need of life advice from a wise older brother who’s really been there (no pun intended)… so grab a Scotch, throw on some quality headphones, and feel free to share a booth with us. 


In this episode we talk about:

- Realizing that nobody you look up to ever feels like they have ‘arrived’ - EVERYONE had to work hard to be good, no exceptions. Everyone you look up to had to put in time and work in that you didn’t see. -Take chances and live an adventure. Don’t be paralyzed by future planning -The need for healthy confidence -Family: Thankfulness for strong supportive wives, dealing with being GONE on the road while in a relationship and learning to be a parent while being a musician. - “GET ADDICTED TO THE PROCESS!” - battling entitlement or expectation -"The human problem with familiarity": How Ben actively reminds himself to take stock in what he’s grateful for and his thoughts on confusing familiarity with a loss of passion -Welcoming different seasons of life: 'always be open to new seasons of joy'  - “You can’t know things you don't know”  - not wasting any energy or time on regrets - The importance of keeping your word - Practicing awkward confrontations: it doesn’t come easy to anyone

Quotes Worth Tattooing from Ben:

"You can’t know things you don't know” "GET ADDICTED TO THE PROCESS!” "Always Be Open To New Seasons Of Joy" “Don’t confuse familiarity with a loss of passion" 


If you’d like to contact Ben, you can find him on social media here: 

Instagram: @bengowell Facebook: Ben.gowell


Recording Location: The Happy Gnome, St. Paul MN Drink: Laphroaig 10yr Scotch

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